Best guided tours: The people who create the world's greatest trips

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Best guided tours: The people who create the world's greatest trips

By Sue Williams
Flamingoes in Laguna Colorada, Atacama Desert in Bolivia.

Flamingoes in Laguna Colorada, Atacama Desert in Bolivia.Credit: iStock

Standing in the desert in Namibia, Jenny Gray idly watched as a truck pulled up and the tourists inside starting climbing out. And then more climbed out. And more. It was as if Dr Who's Tardis had landed, and there were hundreds of people cramped into what looked like a very small space.

"When they started getting out, I couldn't believe how many people had been packed inside!" she says. "They just kept on coming. It was incredible. The truck had been converted with bunk beds inside, so they weren't even able to sleep under Africa's vast starry night sky. I felt very sorry for them."

Everyone has witnessed their own private hell of an overseas tour – hopefully from afar – and it's to avoid any travel downside that journey designers exist. They are the select band of experts employed by tour companies who painstakingly draw up itineraries, test them, check out every journey, stop, hotel, restaurant and event on the schedule, and make sure the end result is going to make a dream trip, rather than an enduring nightmare.

Old town Dubrovnik, Croatia.

Old town Dubrovnik, Croatia.

For Gray, a journey designer with the Intrepid Group, that scene in the desert was her personal vision of hell, while the pet hate for Marion Bunnik, who does the job for Bunnik Tours, is tours where you stop only one or two nights in every place, giving you no chance at all to relax and enjoy a destination.

"There are companies who do Europe in 15 days, for example," she says. "That's not giving you anything of what Europe has to offer. It's exhausting and people never get the essence or culture of the places they're visiting."

Instead, it's the journey designers' task to make sure travellers stay for just long enough to make the most of a stay, have the kind of experiences that are going to prove enjoyable, rewarding and memorable, avoid the queues at popular attractions and take the opportunity to interact with the locals that are denied individual, independent tourists.

One for the bucketlist, the Taj Mahal, India.

One for the bucketlist, the Taj Mahal, India.Credit: iStock

If it's a cruise, then they'll make sure their clients always arrive when a port isn't going to be choc-a-bloc with other ships – or, worst of all, when the town is closed for a public holiday – and airline schedules are pored over for the most comfortable and direct flights.

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Every self-respecting tour or cruise company today has that set of experienced and research-hungry experts, whether called journey designers, journey planners or product managers, who pull together a range of itineraries from all the diverse elements that go into a great holiday.

Most of them are huge travellers themselves and constantly come up with novel ideas for making trips ever more fascinating, or exclusive, with special entry to museums accompanied by champagne or canapes, or visits to local schools.

Working the fields near Otavelo, Ecuador.

Working the fields near Otavelo, Ecuador.Credit: Ammonitefoto

"It does have its pressures as we're always looking for enriching experiences and putting together captivating itineraries," says Marc Ryan of Captain's Choice. "But I get my kicks from the surveys of those who come back who say we've exceeded their expectations. That makes me feel great."

It can certainly become a dream job. Although she is now 67, Bunnik has no plans to retire. "I love my job so much and I never want to stop," she laughs. "I get so much enjoyment out of the group's enjoyment and the relationships we make with our offices overseas and locals."

Of course, there are hardships, too. "There are a lot of good things about it, but it also involves long days, being away a lot and doing so much work, you don't have time to fully enjoy destinations yourself," says Adam Burke of Scenic.

A local woman with a little child carried in traditional way walks through Ngorongoro Park, Tanzania.

A local woman with a little child carried in traditional way walks through Ngorongoro Park, Tanzania.Credit: iStock

So how do they do their jobs, what are they looking for, what do they plan to avoid, and what great ideas have they had for making our holidays the best we've ever had?

THE JOURNEY DESIGNER

Adam Burke, 46, journey designer Scenic Luxury Cruises & Tours, specialising in south-east Asia, based in Sydney, scenic.com.au

A view from on board a chinese junk cruise of Halong Bay.

A view from on board a chinese junk cruise of Halong Bay.Credit: gethinlane

MY DEFINITION OF A GREAT JOURNEY IS ...

One that exceeds the guests' expectations of what they would experience and remember from the journey and would readily continually speak and reminisce about their highlights to their friends and family upon their return.

MY JOB AS A JOURNEY DESIGNER INVOLVES ...

School children in Phnom Penh, Cambodia.

School children in Phnom Penh, Cambodia.Credit: iStock

Visiting the destinations alone, inspecting hotels, restaurants, and reviewing the sights, or sometimes I dip into a trip that my company is already running, watching to see how the itinerary is being interpreted, seeing how the participants are doing, and assessing their feedback.

WHAT I LOOK FOR WHEN DESIGNING A JOURNEY ARE ...

Things that will enrich and prove memorable, and especially things that aren't available to normal tourists. I'm also looking for changes in the product itself, like hotels and restaurants, and any trends. For instance, we used to do just a day trip to Vietnam's Halong Bay, but now there are decent hotels there, and a huge variety of boats suitable for sleeping on, so the itineraries have been adjusted to allow one or two nights there, either sleeping on a boat or in a hotel. We also check how often tourists might visit a particular village, school or nunnery in places like Myanmar, Laos or Cambodia to make sure one isn't benefiting too hugely from tourist cash, and others are not benefiting at all.

Jenny Gray from Intrepid Group.

Jenny Gray from Intrepid Group.

MY JOURNEY 'MUST-AVOIDS' ARE ...

Journeys that take too long from A to B, or involve too much walking, or with no time to relax or go shopping.

THE JOURNEY-ENHANCING IDEA I'M PROUDEST OF IS ...

Michael Pawlus from Azamara Club Cruises.

Michael Pawlus from Azamara Club Cruises.

When we discovered that the municipal museum in Xian, China, decided not to charge for entry anymore and, as a result, it's been overrun with big Chinese tour groups and local people on hot days taking advantage of the airconditioning. So we now book guests into a hotel that has its own private museum with a huge collection of artefacts, and arrange after-hours tours of the museum, which they can do with champagne and nibbles, which is so much more pleasant.

THE JOURNEY DESIGNER

Marion Bunnik, 67, product director Bunnik Tours, specialising in South and Central America and the Middle East, based in Adelaide, bunniktours.com.au

Marion Bunnik of Bunnik Tours.

Marion Bunnik of Bunnik Tours.

MY DEFINITION OF A GREAT JOURNEY IS...

A lifetime experience rather than a journey. It needs to be an excellent tour balanced with sufficient free time to self-explore, which includes being free to eat out in a restaurant of your choice somewhere and spending time talking to local people to find out about their way of life, and allow some spontaneity.

MY JOB AS A JOURNEY DESIGNER INVOLVES...

David Lutz of Collette.

David Lutz of Collette.

I visit destinations and hotels to see which are the most suitable and sometimes take groups myself, like to the Arctic Circle. I do join other tours sometimes for a while as a participant to check that everything's going well, like the coaches and audio, and see how people are enjoying the trip and any ideas they might have for doing anything differently.

WHAT I LOOK FOR WHEN DESIGNING A JOURNEY ...

It's important a tour guide isn't putting too much into one day so it's not enjoyable, that people have free time to enjoy where they are, that hotels are safe and up to standard and that there are enough toilet stops and time to have lunch or dinner. We also want to make sure our itineraries are taking people to places they want to see, like Machu Picchu if they're going to Peru, and that they'll be capable of doing things like walking to the Sun Gate from where there's a great view over the site.

Marc Ryan of Captain's Choice.

Marc Ryan of Captain's Choice.

MY JOURNEY 'MUST-AVOIDS' ARE ...

Tourism across the world is increasing, so there are many more people visiting attractions. We try to choose times when there won't be as many visitors, and where there might be shade but people can still get good photos. For instance, we go to Ollantaytambo in the Sacred Valley, in Peru, the starting point for the Inca Trail, late in the afternoon when it's quieter.

THE JOURNEY-ENHANCING IDEA I'M PROUDEST OF IS...

 Adam Burke of Scenic.

Adam Burke of Scenic.

We believe very much in cultural exchanges with locals. In Tanzania, we visit a village for women, a local school and a sustainable farm. In Ecuador, we go to a village near Otavalo where women make local musical instruments. It's about giving back, too.

THE JOURNEY DESIGNER

David Lutz, 40, product manager Collette, specialising in Europe, Asia and Australia, based in Sydney gocollette.com

MY DEFINITION OF A GREAT JOURNEY IS ...

One that has an impact on you forever – you may not even realise it at the time. It's a series of experiences, perhaps some struggles, some apprehension, a climb, that you get through that leaves such an impact on you that your life is sort of different; your outlook on the world changes.

MY JOB AS A JOURNEY DESIGNER INVOLVES...

We rigorously research all of our existing product and proposed new programs by inspecting each and every hotel and experience for our guests in person. This is increasingly rare in the industry but at Collette we know the personal 'touch' of the product manager inspection ensures the personal touch for the client. We also build relationships with each partner, which brings our guests benefits. For example, hotel porterage is included on a Collette tour; everything needs to be seamless from the guest's arrival.

WHAT I LOOK FOR WHEN DESIGNING A JOURNEY ...

We are always looking at the needs of our customers and adapting our programs to suit. This could be from relatively new attractions such as the Titanic museum in Belfast to enabling guests to connect to Wi-Fi throughout the tour (remote destinations can still be a challenge!). Being close to the destination and needs of our customers enable us to maintain optimum and relevant experience – something that we have done for 99 years.

MY JOURNEY 'MUST-AVOIDS' ARE ...

Our goal is to find a balance between the must-see highlight sights, while finding ways to make those experiences quite unique. This could be through meal inclusions, or hotels, like having dinner at the Eiffel Tower. Experience and long-standing relationships provide us with the knowledge to know the right time to visit and, of course, have preferential access to most sights to avoid the queues.

THE JOURNEY-ENHANCING IDEA I'M PROUDEST OF IS ...

As a company, I think one of the best travel ideas we have incorporated is our choice of inclusions on tour. Examples include the choice of a walking tour focused on food versus a panoramic tour by coach or, in Dubrovnik, a harbour cruise with stops at a local village or a trip to Montenegro.

THE JOURNEY DESIGNER

Jenny Gray, 35, regional product manager Intrepid Group, specialising in Africa and the Middle East, based in Melbourne intrepidtravel.com/au

MY DEFINITION OF A GREAT JOURNEY IS ...

A trip that meanders off the traditional tourist path from time to time and exposes you to experiences, sights, sounds, and tastes that you wouldn't have at home. It's getting under the skin of a destination. It's experiencing it with a local, like a local. Sitting by a campfire under a sky full of stars in the completely unfenced Maasai Mara and listening to stories of the Maasai people from the chief of a village.

MY JOB AS A JOURNEY DESIGNER INVOLVES ...

I'll do a minimum of two trips a year but, since my areas are on the other side of the world, I'll visit four to five countries on every trip. We operate 120 trips in Africa and 60 in the Middle East, so I'll also sometimes jump on to one of the trips and see how they're running, or go on a familiarisation tour to see different areas, and inspect six to seven hotels on one morning. Our trips are all part of a global network with great companies, so I'll be meeting up with those too.

WHAT I LOOK FOR WHEN DESIGNING A JOURNEY ...

Things are always changing in our industry so you keep on top of that. You're checking that areas are still safe for travel and that hotels are still good, particularly in countries like Egypt where there's been fewer tourists so it's a challenge for hotels to keep up standards. You're also looking at anything new, for instance the new Banksy hotel opening in Bethlehem, and at off-the-map places in countries like Iran, which can be hard, with less infrastructure.

MY JOURNEY 'MUST-AVOIDS' ARE ..

Because we have small groups – we'd never have 50 people on a trip following someone with a paddle in the air and having to wear earphones to hear – we can avoid some of the places that get too crowded, and see instead hidden places. A favourite is a tiny store in the Palestinian territories that serves 150 different desserts. You could never get in with a bigger group. We see the major sights like the Taj Mahal and Eiffel Tower, but are also able to provide little moments and experiences that are unique.

THE JOURNEY-ENHANCING IDEA I'M PROUDEST OF IS ...

Putting together a trip to Djibouti [in the Horn of Africa] last year as an expedition trip. One of the drawcards was that you got to trek across the desert with a camel caravan. In theory, it sounded wonderful but the practicalities were a little more challenging. It's pretty untouched by tourism so the operators weren't used to working with groups of different nationalities, and we thought it was a 14 kilometre trek, but it turned out to be 27.5km. And the camels disappeared after half an hour.

THE JOURNEY DESIGNER

Marc Ryan, 45, private jet journey designer Captain's Choice, specialising in the Americas and Australia, based in Melbourne, captainschoice.com.au

MY DEFINITION OF A GREAT JOURNEY IS …

It's not about the destination; it's about the theme of travel and accessing exclusive and unique experiences and, for me, it's one that challenges me on an intellectual level as well.

MY JOB AS A JOURNEY DESIGNER INVOLVES ...

I research current trends and analyse feedback and suggestions from past and current passengers and attend specialised trade shows by operators who deal with high-end experiential travel and put itineraries together. We have four private jets with room for 50 people, but for touring we divide into groups of 12 – using vehicles typically with 24 seats – so we can offer a much more intimate experience.

WHAT I LOOK FOR WHEN DESIGNING A JOURNEY ...

New experiences like glamping in the Atacama Desert [in Chile], which aren't too accessible to others, and inspired moments. We're also looking for enriching experiences. In Venice, for example, we'll go to St Mark's Basilica and then over to the Doge's Palace, but we'll have a special dinner there hosted by a Michelin-starred chef. In Buenos Aires, we'll have a dinner with Argentine celebrity chef Francis Mallmann, in Rio we'll tour significant monuments with a family member of the late architect Oscar Niemeyer, and we'll take super-jeeps to go under glaciers in Iceland and helicopters into volcanoes.

MY JOURNEY 'MUST-AVOIDS' ARE ...

Many of our guests are already well-travelled, so we avoid any experiences that are too common. We don't visit the Eiffel Tower in Paris or the Statue of Liberty in New York, but our guests can do that in their free time if they'd like.

THE JOURNEY-ENHANCING IDEA I'M PROUDEST OF IS ...

St Mark's Basilica isn't normally open for groups, but we have a private visit in the evening, just for us. But many of our ideas we keep as a secret surprise. Last year, we were in Rio for the Paralympics and had Australian gold medal-winner Kurt Fearnley give us a motivational speech. For an evening tango-dancing in Buenos Aires, we arranged a fleet of vintage classic cars to take us there.

THE JOURNEY DESIGNER

Michael Pawlus, 56, director strategic itinerary and destination planning, Azamara Club Cruises, specialising in global destinations, based in Miami azamaraclubcruises.com

MY DEFINITION OF A GREAT JOURNEY IS …

One that provides a lot of varying experiences and cultures and every day is a new, rewarding adventure.

MY JOB AS A JOURNEY DESIGNER INVOLVES ...

I apply years and years of knowledge acquired from visiting hundreds of destinations throughout the world, at every time of year. The captains and hotel directors from on board our twin boutique-hotel-styled ships also provide me with extensive guest feedback about the destinations we visit, which gives us fantastic insight. We also work closely with the locals of the destinations we visit as they are the experts. We constantly fine-tune our itineraries to maximise our guests' enjoyment, and to ensure they truly connect to each place they visit.

WHAT I LOOK FOR WHEN DESIGNING A JOURNEY ...

At Azamara, the destination is the most important element of our cruise experience. Our smaller ships tend to stay longer – late into the evening or even overnight – so guests can experience more. We're therefore not only hunting for unique daytime excursions and experiences, but also for amazing evening tours and special events.

MY JOURNEY 'MUST-AVOIDS' ARE ...

We try to avoid ports that have a lot of cruise ships and tend to schedule our itineraries when the larger ships aren't there. Because of our boutique size, we can also sail into smaller ports other ships might not be able to reach, and try to ensure that we are the only ship there. For example, the port of Hydra, a peaceful little Greek island free of cars, and Korcula in Croatia.

THE JOURNEY-ENHANCING IDEA I'M PROUDEST OF IS...

Our Azamara Event Sailings are always a hit; voyages that incorporate a world-famous event or festival into the itinerary, like the Monaco Grand Prix, the Cannes Film Festival, the British Open Golf Championship and the Redentore Festival in Venice. We've also recently introduced programs that allow you to connect locally, through local food and beverages, walking tours, bicycle tours, or art, history and cultural experiences.

THE JOURNEY YOU'RE MOST PROUD OF CREATING?

ADAM BURKE, SCENIC

The 17-day Essential Japan tour is performing very well as it is a well-balanced itinerary through the mainstream cities. It includes trying all forms of Japanese food and is complemented by visits to both modern sites, like factories and large cities, as well as historical sites and experiences, such as castles and historical villages to give a good overall broad view and understanding of the Japanese people, from $17,990.

MARION BUNNIK, BUNNIK TOURS

South America Discovery Tour, a 36-day escorted tour covering Ecuador, Peru, including the Amazon and Lake Titicaca, Brazil's Rio de Janeiro and Iguazu Falls, Argentina with Buenos Aires, with monthly departures, including the Inti Raymi Festival in Peru on June 24, costing from $18,825, including airfares, taxes and tips.

DAVID LUTZ, COLLETTE

Cultural Treasures of Japan, a 13-day tour of Japan, including Tokyo, Asakusa, Hakone, cruising Lake Ashi, Mount Fuji, Takayama, Hiroshima and Kyoto, costing from $5439 per person twin-share.

JENNY GRAY, INTREPID GROUP

Peregrine Adventures' Uganda Gorilla Expedition & Safari – Limited Edition. Anyone who has trekked to see mountain gorillas in their natural habitat will tell you just how amazing it is. For just eight travellers, the nine-day trip in Uganda includes gorilla permits and all transfers, and costs from $6955 per person, with departures scheduled for July and November 2017.

MARC RYAN, CAPTAIN'S CHOICE

Around The World By Private Jet , a 21-day journey aboard a private jet leaving July 2018, circling the globe east to west, calling at eight different destinations, like Cartagena, Colombia, Venice, Italy, Quebec, Canada and glaciers in Iceland, costing from $93,500 per person twin-share.

MICHAEL PAWLUS, AZAMARA

The 2019 Azamara Quest's country-intensive cruise of Japan, a 15-day round trip from Tokyo with 13 ports of call, including many late night or overnights in the key ports, including Tokyo, Kobe and Nagasaki and many smaller hidden gems, costing from $7315 all-inclusive per person twin-share.

THE WORLD'S NEXT GREAT JOURNEY?

ADAM BURKE, SCENIC

Places which are now only opening up to the outside world, such as Cuba, Myanmar and Bhutan. People are flocking to see these places before they are changed by the outside influences which they were shielded from for so long.

MARION BUNNIK, BUNNIK TOURS

People are getting more and more interested in the Middle East – Jordan, Oman, Egypt, Israel and, in the future, if visa issues can be sorted out, Iran.

DAVID LUTZ, COLLETTE

One on the horizon is the trip to the small Bavarian town of Oberammergau, Germany, for the Passion Play in 2020. It's once a decade and in 2010 more than 500,000 witnessed the five-hour performance.

JENNY GRAY, INTREPID GROUP

I need to keep my cards close to my chest on this one but I can tell you that it may include pyramids, deserts, the Nile river, homestays, desert camps, and some of the friendliest people in the world – and it's not Egypt!

MARK RYAN, CAPTAIN'S CHOICE

Space travel – and I'm really looking forward to it.

MICHAEL PAWLUS, AZAMARA

We've just announced a series of cruises in 2019 which can be taken back to back, starting in Vancouver with the possibility of linking together up to eight cruises in a row for a total of 104 days, including Alaska, Japan, China, Philippines, Vietnam, Thailand, Singapore, Malaysia, Myanmar, Sri Lanka, India, Muscat, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates.

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